GROUND ZERO: attn Hermski, Hook, MEAT, & mars007

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GROUND ZERO: attn Hermski, Hook, MEAT, & mars007

New postby evilgrins » Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:24 pm

While I do enjoy redeemer battles, it's not my favorite thing in the world.

I'm basically known for 2 things in the UT community (3 if you count being excessively goofy):
· Making an excessive number of edits of a single map.
· Collecting monsters.

Long time back I found a truly crappy map with a very intertesting monsterpack: WarNukingGround. It has monsters that've got various types of redeemer weapons... I just needed a good map to use them on.

Sadly I kinda forgot I had it until last week.

Lately I've started making various edits of another map, an open styled map where most of the obstacles aren't solid... so a fired redeemer will travel the length of it unless it hits a mountain or a monster. Problem I've been having is testing it as I've only got a very basic Redeemer Arena mutator... and even with 8 bots backing me up I can't make much headway into fully testing this map:
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Fortunately I've known some folks with very powerful Redeemer Arena mutators I don't have:
· Hook's piratedeemer
· MEAT's redeemer screamer
· mars007's new special redeemers
· Not sure what Hermskii's got but I do know he has hosted redeemer matches

I'd like you guys to take a stab at this map with your special redeemers and let me know what you think. Map has a few standard redeemers on it, mostly by that big white tree (if you ever get there) and a bunch of BPak megahealths; 5,000 health can be handy. Also there's the redeemers the monsters have...
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...some of which you can try if you manage to kill them.

Play it out, maybe host it on your servers for the weekend to let others test it... critique the Hell outta it.

I may need to edit the order of where tougher monsters are encountered on the map.

This sorta thing works out I can start customizing MH maps for Redeemer servers.

Enjoy · http://www.mediafire.com/download/8lad7 ... _NUKEz.zip
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Re: GROUND ZERO: attn Hermski, Hook, MEAT, & mars007

New postby Fuzz_Ball » Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:14 am

Are you just demonstrating this mod?
Warnukingground is an interesting mod.
One MH map that features this comes to mind:
MH-InscrutableCastle or something like that which is on my server.
It's a classic and tough map designed to stop end rushers (hooray!)
And has nuker bad guys and cows.
I've thought about using this mod for DM but hadn't looked into whether or not it had its own built in arena feature.
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Re: GROUND ZERO: attn Hermski, Hook, MEAT, & mars007

New postby evilgrins » Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:09 am

Fuzz_Ball wrote:Are you just demonstrating this mod?
Warnukingground is an interesting mod.

It never feels right to me to say I'm demonstrating something someone else made, even if it's on map edit. It's a pack, not a mod. At least... I've never heard of this presented as a mod in the few places I know of that have discussed it.

I'm just presenting this edit for opinions... which is a kind of demonstrating, I suppose.
Fuzz_Ball wrote:One MH map that features this comes to mind:
MH-InscrutableCastle or something like that which is on my server.
It's a classic and tough map designed to stop end rushers (hooray!)

I'll have to look that up.
Fuzz_Ball wrote:And has nuker bad guys and cows.

This has cows too, they're converted to monster Nali-Warcows... that metallic looking one.
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Re: GROUND ZERO: attn Hermski, Hook, MEAT, & mars007

New postby MEAT » Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:49 am

Can't run map...missing the file "spinner".
I'll venture out and see if I can find it.
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Re: GROUND ZERO: attn Hermski, Hook, MEAT, & mars007

New postby Fuzz_Ball » Fri Apr 29, 2016 3:08 pm

MEAT wrote:Can't run map...missing the file "spinner".
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Ah that damn Spinner - it's a nasty spider. Been causing mismatch trouble in several maps.
Someone out there has a different version and it must get cached.
Try running UT cachecleaner and delete spinner.
That should fix it - I hope.
evilgrins wrote: It's a pack, not a mod.

I knew I'd get corrected.
Your ass, your face, what's the difference.
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Re: GROUND ZERO: attn Hermski, Hook, MEAT, & mars007

New postby evilgrins » Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:40 pm

Fuzz_Ball wrote:Your ass, your face, what's the difference.

My face can't poop on you.
MEAT wrote:Can't run map...missing the file "spinner".
I'll venture out and see if I can find it.

Weird... cuz there's no spinners on that map.

That'd be (as far as I know there's no other version) spinner.u

Very annoyed my UT-mapping-tool didn't list that as a requirement.
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Re: GROUND ZERO: attn Hermski, Hook, MEAT, & mars007

New postby evilgrins » Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:24 pm

That is so weird, but not unheard of:
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Spinners are linked into WarNukingGround but they're not part of it. It accesses spinner.u but I'm not sure why.
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Re: GROUND ZERO: attn Hermski, Hook, MEAT, & mars007

New postby MEAT » Sun May 01, 2016 6:43 pm

Monsters galore...lol
Love this map...it is strictly kill or be killed.
Not a lot of hidden secrets but a lot of fun.
So, I tried it with both of my missiles (sniper and screamer).
This is a very large area map and I had success with both missiles, especially atop the cats head.
However the screamer (self-guided) missile was a little sketchy at full length. Was not really able
to lock on (scope) at the total length of the map...disappointing but at the same time I really had to stretch
or manipulate my bearings to actually go the full length.

As for the map itself...a little glitchy...it had monsters killing monsters.
And killing ants and flies with a redeemer...didn't really make sense to me.
Overall running this map with a redeemer maybe overkill but then again I run a redeemer server so I found it to
be a lot of fun.
And if I were to change anything...remove the ants and flies and give all the other monsters "guided missiles".
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Re: GROUND ZERO: attn Hermski, Hook, MEAT, & mars007

New postby evilgrins » Sun May 01, 2016 8:07 pm

MEAT wrote:Monsters galore...lol
Love this map...it is strictly kill or be killed.
Not a lot of hidden secrets but a lot of fun.

That's why I love it (only 2 secrets are where the Queen is and getting to that cabin on top of the mountain) and probably explains why I've now got 7 different versions of it now... so far.
MEAT wrote:And killing ants and flies with a redeemer...didn't really make sense to me.

The "ants" are just the first monster you encounter. I was surprised they were in that monsterpack too.
The flies are bigger than most players and not much of a threat... unless you kill them without nukes, they explode like redeemers.
MEAT wrote:And if I were to change anything...remove the ants and flies and give all the other monsters "guided missiles".

I had a few substitutions in mind, but that'd involve different monsterpacks. Like · http://unreal-games.livejournal.com/68345.html
MEAT wrote:Overall running this map with a redeemer maybe overkill but then again I run a redeemer server so I found it to be a lot of fun.

My redeemer arena fires normal speed redeemers, it just lets you carry 99 of them at a time... so underkill with anything less than your stuff, maybe.

I only posted this to 3 forums. someone on Herm's sent me this like · http://www.moddb.com/mods/redeemer-mania

Haven't looked at it yet. Are you familiar with those?
MEAT wrote:As for the map itself...a little glitchy...it had monsters killing monsters.

Because of them catching each other in their redeemer blasts or because they were actively fighting each other?

I'm attaching something to fix the latter, the STOP YOUR FIGHTING mutator: SYF.
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Re: GROUND ZERO: attn Hermski, Hook, MEAT, & mars007

New postby MEAT » Sun May 01, 2016 8:30 pm

evilgrins wrote:I only posted this to 3 forums. someone on Herm's sent me this like · http://www.moddb.com/mods/redeemer-mania
Haven't looked at it yet. Are you familiar with those?

Funny but those missiles (that mod) was actually made for me a few years prior to 2012.
In fact I would consider that mod primitive...an early version of what I have on my server.
Where as today...my "seeker" missile is a little more advanced and my "sniper" missile is quite a bit faster.
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